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Tuesday, January 13, 2009
OPTIONAL POST: What Do You Believe In? (CLOSED)
Do you practice a religion? Do you hold a life philosophy? Why or Why not? Do you have ideas about how to live and what happens to a person after he or she dies?
I believe in God and Jesus. I am a Christian and i believe that God made the earth and i believe that Jesus saved us from our sins. I believe that Adam and Eve were the first people God put on earth and that every one sins. I believe that God is always with you and that you should always pray for forgiveness when you sin and pray before you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner.
woot woot first post! I am a christian (presbytarian version) and i believe that after we die, we will go to heaven and spend the rest of time with god and all of our other friends and family. all we have to do in life to get to heaven is pray to god, respect others, and be good people. that, is why i am a presbytarian christian
I believe in an old religion, a religion that started before Christianity and slightly influenced it. It is the Greek religion during the time of Alexander the Great, so it was mixed with many other religions as well. It is called the Hellenistic religion.
I believe in the ancient Greek religion for a lot of reasons, but mainly because of its ruling status. Hellenistic religions believe in piety (order of nature). If various gods all ruled in an oligarchy, the order of nature would all be controlled evenly, however the gods would constantly be at war with one another. If only one god ruled, piety would not be even and the order of nature would no longer exist. Helenistic provides that there is one main ruler (Zeus) who keeps everything in order, but there are also equally powerful rulers (such as Poseidon and Hades) that rule at his side, so piety is kept in balance.
ya lauren thats awsome. I dont think that i eva met a hellenistic before. Personally i am presbytarian. I wasnt really though when i was born. My family was the kind of family that would say they were christian when asked but never really did anything about it and barely even went to church. I credit my friend royce wit my "conversion". Me and Kurt fo to the same church called MPPC. Its awsome.
Ah Sophia, great question. In short, Catholics practice Christianity.
Back in 1054, the one Christian church broke into 2 (the byzantine church and the catholic church) separate divisions of Christianity. Later, as we will study, the Catholic church was broken into many, many, many MORE sects (or divisions) of Christianity. The big difference is the way that Christianity is practiced among these groups and there are some pretty big disagreements among Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, etc. They began way back when and continue today.
I go to the same church as Kurt and Jack. Our church which is presbytarian and my church is mainly based on helping the world and learning about god and jesus. My church does many mission trips to places like Africa and Mexico.
lauren K., if you are still on this blog, do you believe in other gods like hermes, or aphrodite or aries? that is so cool! here is a sereis of books that i am reading about this kind of thing. http://www.percyjacksonbooks.com/
I read that series Kurt I really liked it. I liked them because I read them at the time we were studying the greek gods and it really helped me understand them
ya im christian lutharen (dont know if i spelled that right but lutharens belive a little diffrent than cathlocs its a little complicated on the diffrences but Luther was a cathloc monk that broke away from the cathloc church and formed the first prodestent church.
nice, nice. god talked to me yesterday. i was daydreaming nd he whispered in my head, "Kurt." i new it wasnt my imagination because i can control what i say in my head and i DID NOT say that.
Sorry guys I had a lot of homework. And yes, I do believe in the Greek gods, but also some Egyptian ones and some Jewish and Christian beliefs. Its really compicated and I'm still studying it.
ok so my family is atheist but i believe in god, just dont go to church. I am catholic even tho my parents arent. (they were raised catholic but turned atheist. TRAITORS!)
I'm also Catholic. We rarely go to church, and before we stopped, pretty much the only reason my brother and I went was to get a free donut after the service.
I beleive just like what Samie wrote. I also think u should pray before u eat even when there are people around you I don't think u should care at all. i don't believe in idols I just believe in God and Jesus you know. I think it is important to pray every night and every morning. I am considered a christian Evangelic from the chistian religion but i don't believe in religion I believe that God is the one who loves you and he can acctually hear things when you talk with him(pray). I am not trying to offend anyone if ur catholic but I don't think that the virgin mary hears anything because she is just a statue...
I also don't celebrate any holiday exept for new years. you mifght think that it is sad but I believe that some holidays like easter and Halloween are put here by the devil. He can make you think they are nice but no they aren't.
For Example in halloween some witchcrafters sacrifice children to who knows who but I don't think that in a holiday that God would like that would happen.(That is why i don't participate.) I believe that on october 31st is also the devil's birthday.
I have learned alot from joyce Meyer and on the first 7th grade dance i went to one of her conferences at the HP pavilion and It was very fun.
my mom also loves her and her books.
For example she says that some people go to church on sunday and then forget about God the rest of the week. Then they still want to be saved.
If you want to learn more about joyce and her books go to www.joycemeyer.com
( I am not trying to offend anyone. If I did I am sorry)
What were ChrisB and kurt talking about? and why are they going to Mexico? Mexico is awsome!!!!!!! I am an Atheist so I believe in the big bang and the evolution of the earth. I also believe that humans should get full credit for global warming and stop blaming cows. Cows are domesticated animals and wouldn't be her if it wasn't for us no more cows!!!!! sorry Nicky no more burgers, I wonder what pizza with goat cheese would taste like. Ughh!!! maybe it would taste better than plane goat cheese, hopefully.
Me and my family are catholic but we only go to church once in a while, and I pretty much agree with Sam G. I disagree with Jorge on the fact that Easter is put here by the devil because Easter is where we celebrate Jesus' resurrection.
That's cool Jorge. Kurt, Hellenistic is a VERY old religion. But religions never fade, especially one as popular as an ancient Greek one. There are still books on the regular beliefs and practices of everyday life.
I don't. It's not that I miss out on every holiday, just some. Here's something I'm curious about: Do you guys know any cool philosophy that has to do with your religion?
I agree with sam(ch) because i believe in evolution and that we should be taking all of the credit for global warming. im a christian, but i don't go to church. im currently like jack when he was born...(scroll up) that im a christian, but i don't really do anything about it.
My family is kinda the same as Pauli's except we're technically Jewish. But we don't do anything about it either. I get to celebrate both Hannukah and Christmas though!
Id be very interested to hear the philosophys of your religion lauren. Here are the basic ideas of the christian religion (In my opinion at least): all humans sin but we are saved by the grace of god. Because jesus died on the cross we are forgiven as long as we are genuinly sorry and repent. Also it is that god is all-powerful and all-knowing and ever just. lots of people question the christian god saying: "if hes all-powerful and just than why are so many innocent people in the world being harmed? why doesnt he save them?" what they dont realize is that if we were still in the garden of eden and we hadnt "ate the apples" because satan tempted us we wouldnt be paying for our sins. We can never really understand god completely because he thinks on such a higher level than us. explaining his ideas to us would be like explaining algebra to a preschooler. But if we go to heaven we will be united with him and will finally understand. We will basically be filled with happyness and his glory for all of eternity. The problem that most people have is that they dont understand that eternity is forever compared to the mabye (if your lucky) hundred years that youll live. they want to go for the immediate pleasure and blind themselves to the devastating effects that whatever this emmediat pleasure they want will have in the long run. its sorta like taking a test. Why would you cheat? sure you may seem smarter and you may get a better grade but your no smarter. And thats the whole point of going to school. That youll get smarter so youll do better in real life. if you cheat on a test your not going to survive when you actually need to know what you learned. In the same way if you sin during your short life you wont be better off when you face god on judgement day. and instead of being eternaly happy youll suffer for eternity. Sins just not worth it. Think about how quickly your life will be over. Dont waste it.
I no im not explaining this very well but if your at all itrested it what im sayin you might want to pick up a bible. You dont even have to do it to be a christian, just check out the ideas. Youll find that your life will probably improve.
also as a response to kurts request....I!!! my next door nieghbor nick shlien (maby u know him) has a babysitter named maggie. She is a incredible person and has been with the shlien family for a long time. unfortunetly a few years ago she tested positive for luekemia (not sure about spelling). She was in pretty deep and only had about a five percent chance of survival. Every night i prayed for her for as long as she had had it (about six months). Unfortunetly it didnt seem to be having much effect. She was steadily getting into worse condition. But as she was nearing the condition where there was nothing the doctors could do anymore i was lying in bed about to pray for her, and I could just feel that i was in gods presence. I cant really explain what hapened but god just sorta filled me with hope... and the next month maggie had recovered.
I no its like the most cheezy predictable story youve ever heard but its true. And i fully bielive that god visited me that night.
Wow Jack. I was going to say that humans are steeped in ambiguity; yet somehow pass our daily lives completely unaware of the blemishes in our souls. But I like your responses better.
Uh ladies and gentlemen - you have JUST experienced the power of blogging. This will end this discussion. I can only imagine what incredible things will follow in the months to come.
I believe in God and Jesus. I am a Christian and i believe that God made the earth and i believe that Jesus saved us from our sins. I believe that Adam and Eve were the first people God put on earth and that every one sins. I believe that God is always with you and that you should always pray for forgiveness when you sin and pray before you eat breakfast, lunch and dinner.
ReplyDeletewoot woot first post! I am a christian (presbytarian version) and i believe that after we die, we will go to heaven and spend the rest of time with god and all of our other friends and family. all we have to do in life to get to heaven is pray to god, respect others, and be good people. that, is why i am a presbytarian christian
ReplyDeleteo shoot i didnt see sams post when i was writing so i am not first post darn. samie inhales deeply
ReplyDeleteI believe in an old religion, a religion that started before Christianity and slightly influenced it. It is the Greek religion during the time of Alexander the Great, so it was mixed with many other religions as well. It is called the Hellenistic religion.
ReplyDeleteI believe in the ancient Greek religion for a lot of reasons, but mainly because of its ruling status. Hellenistic religions believe in piety (order of nature). If various gods all ruled in an oligarchy, the order of nature would all be controlled evenly, however the gods would constantly be at war with one another. If only one god ruled, piety would not be even and the order of nature would no longer exist. Helenistic provides that there is one main ruler (Zeus) who keeps everything in order, but there are also equally powerful rulers (such as Poseidon and Hades) that rule at his side, so piety is kept in balance.
WoW Lauren - that is really an interesting comment.
ReplyDeleteI've not heard someone give such insight about Hellenism.
Oh wow
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if anyone knows the difference between being a christian & a catholic?
ReplyDeleteya lauren thats awsome. I dont think that i eva met a hellenistic before. Personally i am presbytarian. I wasnt really though when i was born. My family was the kind of family that would say they were christian when asked but never really did anything about it and barely even went to church. I credit my friend royce wit my "conversion". Me and Kurt fo to the same church called MPPC. Its awsome.
ReplyDeleteAh Sophia, great question. In short, Catholics practice Christianity.
ReplyDeleteBack in 1054, the one Christian church broke into 2 (the byzantine church and the catholic church) separate divisions of Christianity. Later, as we will study, the Catholic church was broken into many, many, many MORE sects (or divisions) of Christianity. The big difference is the way that Christianity is practiced among these groups and there are some pretty big disagreements among Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, etc. They began way back when and continue today.
I go to the same church as Kurt and Jack. Our church which is presbytarian and my church is mainly based on helping the world and learning about god and jesus. My church does many mission trips to places like Africa and Mexico.
ReplyDeletethat is really cool Lauren. Sounds like an interesting religion
ReplyDeletelauren K., if you are still on this blog, do you believe in other gods like hermes, or aphrodite or aries? that is so cool! here is a sereis of books that i am reading about this kind of thing. http://www.percyjacksonbooks.com/
ReplyDeleteI read that series Kurt I really liked it. I liked them because I read them at the time we were studying the greek gods and it really helped me understand them
ReplyDeletehha lol yeah i also like the way he talks and the adventures they go on. REALLY GOOD BOOKS!!
ReplyDeleteya im christian lutharen (dont know if i spelled that right but lutharens belive a little diffrent than cathlocs its a little complicated on the diffrences but Luther was a cathloc monk that broke away from the cathloc church and formed the first prodestent church.
ReplyDeletechrisb where is your church going in mexico? because i might be going to the same place as you
ReplyDeleteOne of the best series of books I've ever read
ReplyDeleteBEST BOOKS EVA. ummm chris1 we go to an orphanage near juarez lol
ReplyDeletenot this year this year we go to LA
ReplyDeleteo ya mexico waz last year
ReplyDeleteyep
ReplyDeleteanybody say I and tell how(if you want to) if you have ever made a connection with god/gods
ReplyDeleteI one time when I really needed help on a big science test studying I prayed and then I could study really hard. ended up getting A+ on the test
ReplyDeletenice, nice. god talked to me yesterday. i was daydreaming nd he whispered in my head, "Kurt." i new it wasnt my imagination because i can control what i say in my head and i DID NOT say that.
ReplyDeletecool
ReplyDeleteI remind you that a blog isn't a Chat room. Thanks guys.
ReplyDeleteSorry guys I had a lot of homework. And yes, I do believe in the Greek gods, but also some Egyptian ones and some Jewish and Christian beliefs. Its really compicated and I'm still studying it.
ReplyDeleteWait...who is chris1 and who is chrisb? There are two chrisb's.
ReplyDeleteone is chris blanc and the other one is chris bower. i dont know which one is which.
ReplyDeleteLauren,
ReplyDeletewhat types of holidays do you celebrate?
chris 1 is blank and chrisb is bower
ReplyDeleteoh ok. And Kurt I already have the Lightning Theif series.
ReplyDeleteits AWESOME
ReplyDeleteSophia, I don't think I've studied that far yet. I do know there is a festival on Demeter every five years, but I don't know the years.
ReplyDeleteAnd, guys, Greek mythology is NOT TO BE READ AS A BIBLE.
Is hellenistic very common lauren becuase i have never heard of it before
ReplyDeleteok so my family is atheist but i believe in god, just dont go to church. I am catholic even tho my parents arent. (they were raised catholic but turned atheist. TRAITORS!)
ReplyDeleteI'm also Catholic. We rarely go to church, and before we stopped, pretty much the only reason my brother and I went was to get a free donut after the service.
ReplyDeleteI beleive just like what Samie wrote.
ReplyDeleteI also think u should pray before u eat even when there are people around you I don't think u should care at all. i don't believe in idols I just believe in God and Jesus you know. I think it is important to pray every night and every morning. I am considered a christian Evangelic from the chistian religion but i don't believe in religion I believe that God is the one who loves you and he can acctually hear things when you talk with him(pray). I am not trying to offend anyone if ur catholic but I don't think that the virgin mary hears anything because she is just a statue...
I also don't celebrate any holiday exept for new years. you mifght think that it is sad but I believe that some holidays like easter and Halloween are put here by the devil. He can make you think they are nice but no they aren't.
For Example in halloween some witchcrafters sacrifice children to who knows who but I don't think that in a holiday that God would like that would happen.(That is why i don't participate.) I believe that on october 31st is also the devil's birthday.
I have learned alot from joyce Meyer and on the first 7th grade dance i went to one of her conferences at the HP pavilion and It was very fun.
my mom also loves her and her books.
For example she says that some people go to church on sunday and then forget about God the rest of the week. Then they still want to be saved.
If you want to learn more about joyce and her books go to www.joycemeyer.com
( I am not trying to offend anyone. If I did I am sorry)
What were ChrisB and kurt talking about? and why are they going to Mexico? Mexico is awsome!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI am an Atheist so I believe in the big bang and the evolution of the earth. I also believe that humans should get full credit for global warming and stop blaming cows. Cows are domesticated animals and wouldn't be her if it wasn't for us no more cows!!!!! sorry Nicky no more burgers, I wonder what pizza with goat cheese would taste like. Ughh!!! maybe it would taste better than plane goat cheese, hopefully.
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ReplyDeleteMe and my family are catholic but we only go to church once in a while, and I pretty much agree with Sam G. I disagree with Jorge on the fact that Easter is put here by the devil because Easter is where we celebrate Jesus' resurrection.
ReplyDeleteleland I believe it and for others it is really hard to understand but I mean we can believe what we want
ReplyDeleteI mean it is Ok that we disagree like mr k said.
ReplyDeleteThat's cool Jorge.
ReplyDeleteKurt, Hellenistic is a VERY old religion. But religions never fade, especially one as popular as an ancient Greek one. There are still books on the regular beliefs and practices of everyday life.
cool. If you haven't heard of a religion that doesn't mean that it isn't real.
ReplyDeleteOh and Jorge I don't celebrate all of the holidays either so you're not left out.
ReplyDeleteeven if I was left out I don't have to be like others I can belive what I want but I also didn't know that u didn't either
ReplyDeleteI don't. It's not that I miss out on every holiday, just some.
ReplyDeleteHere's something I'm curious about: Do you guys know any cool philosophy that has to do with your religion?
Not really. There probably is some, I'm just too lazy to go read about it.
ReplyDeleteI know a lot. But some of it might be insulting to the human race. Kinda...
ReplyDeleteI'm very proud of how all of you show respect and understanding to those who have differing beliefs.
ReplyDeleteI agree with sam(ch) because i believe in evolution and that we should be taking all of the credit for global warming. im a christian, but i don't go to church. im currently like jack when he was born...(scroll up) that im a christian, but i don't really do anything about it.
ReplyDeletebtw, Lauren K:
ReplyDeleteyour religion is so cool! when and how did u decide to support that religion? do u go 2 a church for it?
My family is kinda the same as Pauli's except we're technically Jewish. But we don't do anything about it either. I get to celebrate both Hannukah and Christmas though!
ReplyDeleteId be very interested to hear the philosophys of your religion lauren. Here are the basic ideas of the christian religion (In my opinion at least):
ReplyDeleteall humans sin but we are saved by the grace of god. Because jesus died on the cross we are forgiven as long as we are genuinly sorry and repent. Also it is that god is all-powerful and all-knowing and ever just. lots of people question the christian god saying: "if hes all-powerful and just than why are so many innocent people in the world being harmed? why doesnt he save them?" what they dont realize is that if we were still in the garden of eden and we hadnt "ate the apples" because satan tempted us we wouldnt be paying for our sins. We can never really understand god completely because he thinks on such a higher level than us. explaining his ideas to us would be like explaining algebra to a preschooler. But if we go to heaven we will be united with him and will finally understand. We will basically be filled with happyness and his glory for all of eternity. The problem that most people have is that they dont understand that eternity is forever compared to the mabye (if your lucky) hundred years that youll live. they want to go for the immediate pleasure and blind themselves to the devastating effects that whatever this emmediat pleasure they want will have in the long run. its sorta like taking a test. Why would you cheat? sure you may seem smarter and you may get a better grade but your no smarter. And thats the whole point of going to school. That youll get smarter so youll do better in real life. if you cheat on a test your not going to survive when you actually need to know what you learned. In the same way if you sin during your short life you wont be better off when you face god on judgement day. and instead of being eternaly happy youll suffer for eternity. Sins just not worth it. Think about how quickly your life will be over. Dont waste it.
I no im not explaining this very well but if your at all itrested it what im sayin you might want to pick up a bible. You dont even have to do it to be a christian, just check out the ideas. Youll find that your life will probably improve.
sry. that was longer than i thought it would be.
ReplyDeletealso as a response to kurts request....I!!! my next door nieghbor nick shlien (maby u know him) has a babysitter named maggie. She is a incredible person and has been with the shlien family for a long time. unfortunetly a few years ago she tested positive for luekemia (not sure about spelling). She was in pretty deep and only had about a five percent chance of survival. Every night i prayed for her for as long as she had had it (about six months). Unfortunetly it didnt seem to be having much effect. She was steadily getting into worse condition. But as she was nearing the condition where there was nothing the doctors could do anymore i was lying in bed about to pray for her, and I could just feel that i was in gods presence. I cant really explain what hapened but god just sorta filled me with hope... and the next month maggie had recovered.
ReplyDeleteI no its like the most cheezy predictable story youve ever heard but its true. And i fully bielive that god visited me that night.
Wow Jack. I was going to say that humans are steeped in ambiguity; yet somehow pass our daily lives completely unaware of the blemishes in our souls. But I like your responses better.
ReplyDeleteumm... what does ambiguity mean?
ReplyDeleteAmbiguity means doubt. Sorry that was a complicated way of putting it
ReplyDeletemy dad is Jewish so so sometimes we calibrate Christmas and Hanukkah
ReplyDeleteUh ladies and gentlemen - you have JUST experienced the power of blogging. This will end this discussion. I can only imagine what incredible things will follow in the months to come.
ReplyDelete